Mr. DEPP: Ouch. WINFREY: That’s days.
Ms. WINSLET: Yeah, yeah, I know. Oh, yeah. I know. And, basically, I got to two centimeters and that was it. And then they came and said, `You know, we’re going to have to induce you, and this will get things going much more quickly,’ and even that didn’t work.
WINFREY: Really?
Ms. WINSLET: No. Even that didn’t work. And then C-section, there you go. But I did–yeah, and I did–because it was such a shock, I did sort of feel
like I’d failed in a funny kind of a way. And I think just because of, you
know, my mum being such a great child-bearer and her mother as well. My mum’s one of six kids. And so it was a big deal for me. And then I had…
WINFREY: You know that’s ridiculous.
Ms. WINSLET: Well, I do now.
WINFREY: Yeah. That’s ridiculous.
Ms. WINSLET: I do now. And then I had my son, Joe, completely naturally, so…
WINFREY: Epidural, though, right?
Ms. WINSLET: …there you go. WINFREY: Did you have an epidural? Ms. WINSLET: I had an epidural. Yeah. WINFREY: Good, yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: I did. I was induced. And I did 15 hours with nothing, and then I thought, OK, now, you know, I really am actually going to fall apart. So had the epidural and that meant that I…
WINFREY: So you did 15 hours without the epidural.
Ms. WINSLET: Yeah. And…
WINFREY: God bless you.
Ms. WINSLET: …I…
Mr. DEPP: I’m going to have a drink.
WINFREY: OK. We’ll be right back with more from Johnny Depp and Kate Winslet.
(Announcements)
WINFREY: Johnny Depp, Kate Winslet, and I are sharing a toast to their new movie, “Finding Neverland,” that flies into theaters on November 12th. You’ve been very outspoken, really, about I think a lot of things, but body–women’s body image in Hollywood. Yeah, yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: Yes, I have been somewhat. Oops.
WINFREY: Yeah. Yes. I think that’s a good thing. I think that’s a good thing. What do you want people to know?
Ms. WINSLET: Well, I think–I remember Leo when we were doing “Titanic” saying to me, `You know, it’s really important that you are the shape that you are,’ and I was like, `Well, what do you mean by that?’ And it was kind of a really out-of-the-blue conversation that we had in the middle of shooting. He said, `Because there are so many skinny girls out there who think that to be successful and to be beautiful and, therefore, to be loved and respected, it means you have to be thin.’ And this kind of really struck a chord with me, and I thought, God, he’s really right actually, in that in some way, this
image is being translated to teen-age girls, you know, and that… WINFREY: Especially.
Ms. WINSLET: And especially, and on some level, they really do think that to get a great guy or to be, you know, the smartest or the nicest one in their
class that they have to be, you know, skinny and pretty. And it just really, really bothered me. And so when “Titanic” was so successful and I was…
WINFREY: Tell me you had a piece of that. Did you have just like some back-end piece or a portion or a percentage or something?
Ms. WINSLET: No, no, I didn’t.
WINFREY: Oh.
Mr. DEPP: I’m going to have another drink.
WINFREY: You didn’t? I would think you would never have to work another day in your life unless you just decided I like the script.
Ms. WINSLET: Well, you know, it was different back then. No one sort of
really kind of knew who I was particularly, so it was fine. It was fine. It really was.
WINFREY: It’s fine.
Ms. WINSLET: It was fine. But when…
WINFREY: Just like one-half of a percentage point would be very nice, but, OK, you’ve let it go.
Ms. WINSLET: Let it go. It’s fine. WINFREY: OK. I’ll let it go, too. Ms. WINSLET: Phew. WINFREY: I’ll let it go.
Ms. WINSLET: OK. WINFREY: OK.
Ms. WINSLET: But then so when the Academy Awards came around for “Titanic,” you know, I thought, you know what? I’m young. I’m 21 years old, and I’m in
this movie, and it’s very successful. And I’ve been nominated for an Academy Award for this. And I haven’t done any of this through being skinny or
through starving myself or anything like that, and so I thought, I’m just going to hold my head high and I’m just going to be the person that I am, and–thank you. And I’ve just tried to continue to do the same thing. And now as a mother myself, you know, with my daughter, because it is girls, frankly, I think, who suffer the most with this kind of internal battle, you know, it’s even more important to me than ever.
WINFREY: That and plastic surgery. What do you–what’s your take on…
Ms. WINSLET: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. It just–that just drives me nuts. It just drives me nuts. Why would you want to, you know, inject your face with a rat’s testicle? I mean, why–I mean–no, I just…
WINFREY: Is that what it is? Is that what… Ms. WINSLET: Well, it’s something like that… WINFREY: Or whatever. Yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: …isn’t it? Something strange. WINFREY: A rat’s testicle, yeah, yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: But, yeah. I mean, that is my feeling about it. It’s–you know, I mean, we should all be growing old gracefully and just letting, you know, nature take its course. And more importantly, you know, for actors and actresses, you know, that’s your livelihood. You know, that’s–I would feel
so dishonest if I couldn’t move part of my face properly in order to portray a certain part…
WINFREY: Right.
Ms. WINSLET: …or convey a particular emotion. And so it just really frightens the life out of me.
WINFREY: OK. We’ll be right back.
Coming up, Kate shows off her special talent.
(Announcements)
WINFREY: OK. You do a really good American accent, too.
Ms. WINSLET: Oh, thank you very much.
WINFREY: Yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: Thank you.
WINFREY: Yeah. How do you teach yourself to be American?
Ms. WINSLET: Well, I…
WINFREY: Like could you speak a little American for us?
Ms. WINSLET: Oh, God, don’t you hate it when they do that?
WINFREY: Yeah, I do. Take a sip and do it.
Mr. DEPP: I’ll take a sip, too.
Ms. WINSLET: OK.
WINFREY: OK, good. Great. Good.
Ms. WINSLET: (With American accent) Oprah, it is so great to be here. Thank you so much for having me on the show. And, Johnny, it’s great to see you.
WINFREY: Excellent! Johnny, of course, in “Finding Neverland,” does Scottish. So could you do a little for us?
Ms. WINSLET: Oh, nice!
Mr. DEPP: Oh.
WINFREY: Oh, good.
Mr. DEPP: (With Scottish accent) It was quite a long time ago. Ms. WINSLET: Oh!
WINFREY: Oh, very good. Very good. Very good. We’ll be right back. Next, the amazing child actor who I think he’s…
Ms. WINSLET: Incredible.
WINFREY: He’s incredible.
Ms. WINSLET: Incredible. Mr. DEPP: Amazing.
WINFREY: He’s going to steal your heart. You’ve never seen a child actor like this. We’ll be right back.
(Announcements)
(Excerpt from “Finding Neverland”)
WINFREY: At the time he did that movie, he was 10 years old. Now he’s 12 years old, Freddie Highmore, in the new wonderful movie “Finding Neverland,” which opens in theaters November 12th. Please welcome–you’re going to introduce him to us.
Mr. DEPP: Oh, yeah. Freddie Highmore.
Ms. WINSLET: Yea, Freddie.
WINFREY: Freddie.
Hello. What a pleasure to have you here. Pleasure to have you here. Oh, my goodness. We have never seen anybody quite like you ever.
FREDDIE HIGHMORE (“Finding Neverland”): Thanks.
WINFREY: Never, ever, ever. So did you grow up wanting to–well, grow up. You’re–well, did you always want to be an actor?
HIGHMORE: Well, I wasn’t sure when I was young and I thought it might be… WINFREY: When you were young, yes.
HIGHMORE: Yeah. When I was younger, I thought it would be quite fun to do a small part and see how it went, so I went to an audition, and I did a small
part, and then the parts got bigger and bigger and…
WINFREY: The parts got bigger and bigger. So how young were you when you did your first one?
HIGHMORE: I think I was about five and–yeah. WINFREY: Really?
HIGHMORE: Yeah.
WINFREY: Would you say that this is your biggest part?
HIGHMORE: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
WINFREY: Now I had read that Johnny is your hero. Was that correct–is that a correct…
HIGHMORE: Yeah, it is. Yeah, he is a hero to me. WINFREY: He is a hero.
HIGHMORE: And, of course, Kate is my heroine. Ms. WINSLET: Oh.
WINFREY: Have you ever worked with a child actor like this? I had read a quote.
Ms. WINSLET: I’ll have to put my fingers in your ears so I don’t spoil you. No, I’ve never worked with a child actor like Freddie, because Freddie is Freddie, and there’s just simply no one else like him. I mean…
WINFREY: Really?
Ms. WINSLET: I…
WINFREY: You can feel him giving. You can feel him in the scenes. You can.
Ms. WINSLET: Well, yes, you absolutely can. And you can’t help but react to the honesty that he’s giving you.
WINFREY: Yeah, it’s pure.
Ms. WINSLET: It’s completely… WINFREY: Clean, clean, clean.
Ms. WINSLET: It’s completely pure. WINFREY: Yeah, yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: But at the same time, I would like to say that Freddie is also very much a keen footballer and a totally normal kid who would round the boys up at lunchtimes and they all completely played together and they all got on
so great. That was one of the really great things, wasn’t it, about the film.
HIGHMORE: Yeah. Yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: You know, it was a very much a really happy family. WINFREY: Good
Ms. WINSLET: But that’s sort of a cliche, but it was true.
WINFREY: Yeah.
Ms. WINSLET: It really was like that.
WINFREY: So you’re going to be doing another movie with Johnny, is that true? HIGHMORE: Yeah, we’re doing “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.” WINFREY: Oh, are you? Exciting. I’m glad we get to–so tell us about it.
Tell us about it. Tell us about it.
HIGHMORE: I can’t say too much, but it’s fantastic.
WINFREY: Can you say who you play?
HIGHMORE: Yeah, I play Charlie.
WINFREY: Fantastic. Fantastic. Well, congratulations to you. It just was an outstanding performance.
HIGHMORE: Thanks a lot.
WINFREY: Outstanding performance. We’ll be right back. “Finding Neverland,” November 12th.
(Announcements)
WINFREY: Thanks to my guests, Johnny Depp, Kate Winslet, and Freddie Highmore. Remember the movie “Finding Neverland.” It is really great. Isn’t it, audience? It’s just–ah. Wonderful. Opens November 12th. Don’t forget to vote today! Bye, everybody.
